alexb
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Post by alexb on Apr 2, 2019 4:06:35 GMT
I'll be building #TS-031 Meng's King Tiger (Henschel Turret), in 1/35 scale.
Meng has molded this kit in red-oxide styrene. It comes with length & link tracks. There's a jig to create track sag for the top runs. A thankfully small PE set...mostly grills...is included. Parts for "different periods" are included. Two crew figures are included, though they look stiff. Full color markings are included to depict four different King Tigers. Two are shown with zimmerit, two without. The box art shows a zimmerit KT, though no zimm is included with the kit. Meng does offer a zimm sticker set....sold separately.
 
I'll be building mine as a late war/final production King Tiger. No zimmerit. This will only be my second KT that I've ever built. I have built Dragon's Henschel KT with zimm. It's a nice kit and I expect Meng's to build up nice as well. From what I've read, it seems to be pretty solid kit.
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Post by Paul B on Apr 2, 2019 4:20:03 GMT
Nice looking kit ALex  . As for the Zimmerit, well anything produced after September ´44 didn't get the 2tonnes of highly flammable covering anyway  .
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Post by SteveM on Apr 2, 2019 6:56:25 GMT
Plenty to keep you busy there B)
Thats a great value kit Alex, there’re on EBay for £24 with free delivery!
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Post by wouter on Apr 2, 2019 11:47:30 GMT
I haven't seen a Meng Tiger II with Serienturm being built in a while so looking forward to watch this one unfold (see, it isn't so hard to mention the correct name so I wonder why it's so hard for the companies to do so  )
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Post by Boots on Apr 2, 2019 12:35:01 GMT
Ooooh ya can`t beat a good `ol King Tiger 3...........sorry Wouts........just yankin` ya chain  Great lookin` Tiger II there Alex.......i`m in 
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Post by Paul B on Apr 2, 2019 14:16:15 GMT
Wouts you have full permission to use the naughty step for whatever you wish 
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Post by Boots on Apr 2, 2019 14:32:41 GMT
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Post by Snipersmudge on Apr 2, 2019 14:52:19 GMT
Nice one Alex, looks like a great package 
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Post by wouter on Apr 2, 2019 15:01:48 GMT
LOL, and for the record, I was whining about the usage of wrong names by the modelling companies, not the modellers  Paul, thanks mate 
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Post by Boots on Apr 2, 2019 15:17:06 GMT
I knew that 
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Post by JEFF on Apr 2, 2019 21:23:19 GMT
Fine looking kit, Alex. Interesting color, too. 
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Post by Marco on Apr 4, 2019 16:44:35 GMT
Nice looking kit! I'll follow!
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Post by alexb on May 3, 2019 17:58:40 GMT
I sort of let this one slide and not really posted any thing on it yet. I actually got off to a good start and then it just fizzled. I really haven't enjoyed this kit...for several reasons.
The most noticeable thing about this kit is the color of the plastic. It's a pain to photograph and requires a lot of light to halfway see anything. The parts numbers are small and not very stand-out-ish...the color doesn't help with this. The instructions are pretty vague. It's cited as being build-able as either an early or late KT, but the instructions don't point out which parts are for which production phase. And to be honest, this kit is a reversed conversion...it's a retro build where they are un-interior-izing it. And that's not a criticism, as much as an observation. Some of the parts just look odd. Some are missing textures they should have. For example, the hull MG barrel has no real detail to it. It's just a length of styrene rod. The tie-down for the engine deck are way undersized.
Anyway...on to the actual build....and some more probable griping.
The roadwheels are pretty okay. They are a polycap sandwiched between the inner/outer wheels design. I'm not sure why they have polycaps for a kit that comes with length & link tracks...but that's not a problem. The wheel details is okay. It's not crisp...or at least as crisp as the Dragon KT wheels. They give you the parts for early and late wheel hubs but don't tell you which is which.

The suspension is pretty normal. They are delicate and I imagine pushing those roadweels on will be an adventure. Also, they include spacers to be placed on the suspension arm shafts to offset the wheels. The problem is the instructions aren't specific on which ones to put them on.

The rear of the hull...pretty simple. The exhausts were super smooth so I sanded them to try to give a hint of some texture. The armored exhaust covers are given as optional early and late versions...again not specified which is which. After some comparisons to the Dragon KT I settled on one set. I left one of the tow shackles off. I figured these were easily lost by crews.

Rear plate mounted. That red plastic really looks rough. I'm sure paint will cover it just dandy and I'm shooting for a rough, worn-out KT. I left the jack off for now.

Mainly another shot of the lower hull. Meng did something pretty smart here. They included a lot of support pieces. I assume the interior would have given a lot of that support. They included two pieces that fit in the tub and a fancy looking part that mates the upper and lower hull pieces. There's another support section that you add to the upper hull later.

So I went ahead and shot a coat of sand on the lower hull and roadwheels.
 
Now for the upper hull. I see why they included the extra supports. The upper hull is pretty flimsy. That rear section for the engine deck is a separate piece. I get why they did it like that...this was designed as a full interior kit. This lets them show off the inner-kabobs. And to be fair, once all the engine deck pieces, turret ring section, etc. are added this should be pretty sturdy. Sort of along those lines, Meng has included an insert for the interior of the front plate. I assume this is an interior leftover to simulate the armor thickness. I don't see it, but I suspect the added thickness is also added for fit. You actually have to add a layer to each of the rear tow bracket extensions too. Also, there's not much for the bow MG. At the least, I'll update that horrible barrel.

Flipped the upper hull over and added the radiator sections and turret ring section. I left off the engine cover for now. I have a Tamiya Tiger Engine and might add it. The kit doesn't come with the radiator/fan units under the grills...which is a shame. I'll probably just box those off and paint them red-oxide. It would have been nice to have them, but to be fair, once the PE grills are added you really can't see any thing underneath any way.
The periscope are molded clear. They are very fragile. The hole for them is tight....I broke one of the periscopes pushing it in...and it didn't take much effort to break it. You'll need to open the hole a bit. I used a flat file. By the way, the upper hull texture looks great.
I think that's it for now. If I sound down on this kit...well I am. It's a big letdown as I expected more from Meng. Without the interior, I would say the old Tamiya KT is a better kit. And I think that's it...this kit looks dated and I think it leans on having that full interior (and Meng AM sets) to keep up. I hope it gets better, but we'll see.
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Post by Paul B on May 3, 2019 18:23:38 GMT
Wow this sounds like a very dodgy kit indeed Alex  . I must admit, I thought Meng would have been better. Even so, looks like you got it by the short and curlies  .
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Post by alexb on May 4, 2019 5:42:11 GMT
It should be good. I just expected a better kit from Meng in 2019. And to be fair, I think some of the issues are a result of this being retrograded from a full interior kit. Without the interior and AM stuff...it's not that good of a kit.
Looking ahead...let's check out the turret and tracks. See those two turret looking parts. One is the interior and the other the exterior. One fits inside of the other. I assume this is a leftover from the interior.
 
And the tracks...there are four identical sprues. The tracks look sort of dated. But what concerns me is that the top runs are made from single long runs. Getting that top run to sag is going to be something, especially since I plan on leaving the side skirts off.

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Post by Snipersmudge on May 4, 2019 18:20:12 GMT
Interesting it's playing you up mate, I'm sure you'll whip it into shape though 
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Post by Boots on May 4, 2019 19:19:57 GMT
Gotta say it is defo a frikkin` ghastly colour and i`m really surprised at the quality of a Meng kit as well  , as you say........paint will make it a whole lot better 
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Post by alexb on May 27, 2019 18:28:24 GMT
I know time is running out. This has been a tough one to stay motivated for.
Anyway, I got the road-wheels on. They actually went on nicely. The arms held up fine, but a couple did pop loose. And that brings up another quirk I've noticed about this kit...or more precisely the styrene...it's rubbery. I am guessing Meng did this for the interior version, so panels can be popped on and off to have a look inside. The downside is the stuff can be a bit temperamental when it comes to cement. I changed from Tamiya extra thin to Testors and it helped.
While I am thinking about it, the turret fits in a groove. However, the fit wasn't great and the turret sort of hovered in place. I had to clean-up the grooves and tweak it to fit right. If you have the interior version this is a great idea. It allows easy access to look inside without having to twist off the turret or having it sit in the ring.

Upper hull...mostly the engine deck. Somehow I have misplaced some of the tie-downs. I had to hit up the spares. Fortunately I had some extras from a couple of Dragon kits. I just realized that I have forgotten to box in the radiators and cooling fans. I'll have to remember to do that before sealing the hull halves up.
I left off the PE for now. The PE is nickel or stainless but really looks good. The mesh is really fine and IMO looks more accurate than most of the AM mesh sets for these things. Meng has set a tool to help form some of these so I want to take my time with them so I'll wait before adding them.

Now the track. I plan on leaving the skirts off so the tracks play a big role in how I want to pose this KiTtay. I've been tap dancing around this bit. Meng doesn't send any extras, so you have to be careful. Likewise, the spare sections for the turret are molded in 4-link sections. You cannot tap into those if you need an extra link or two. The template is a nice idea, but it would have you place the upper runs laying all the way across the tops of the roadwheels and the drive sprocket. The molded lengths aren't bad if you don't plan on articulating the running gear and go with proper track sag. The sections were assembled, per instructions.

I painted the finished tracks flat black, then gave it a couple of dust coats of brown and red/brown. The rest of the painting will be done after the tracks are on and I start weathering. The tracks fit together great, especially on the running gear. Everything lines pretty good...except for the sag...or lack of. Again, if you use the skirts the tracks would be a breeze. So I had to go in and rework the track to give a bit of a gap coming off the drive sprockets. Alot of this dealt with bending the long-molded sections of track.
I mounted the top run on one side and held it in place with a very dysfunctional display of shimming. The sag is correct now. The problem now is will the tracks fit. KT tracks alternate types lie a T34. With the sag corrected, the track is tightened and the track length is shortened. I have to hope the track is shortened two lengths to fit correctly. If so, it's hunky dorry...but I doubt I'll get lucky on that one.
So we'll see how things work out tonight with the tracks. The fix should be pretty easy...the idlers are keyed but can be tweaked to be adjusted. That should keep me from having to rework the rear ends of the top runs.
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Post by jkb on May 27, 2019 18:43:20 GMT
Looks like a very nice kit and is getting built very well! Looking forward to see the rest of the build. 😎
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