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Post by Paul B on Jun 4, 2019 16:42:16 GMT
Hi chaps, I need to do something different again  . So I am going to try my best at the famed Japanese Zero fighter, the kit is from Tamiya and is somewhat older (sprue dates 1982/83) but hey Tamiya is Tamiya so this should be an easy build  .  And we're orfe  .    The panel lines are raised and engraved, but I'm not too worried about that. The camo I intend to use should hide the fact that both types are on the kit  . More soon chaps 
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Post by Snipersmudge on Jun 4, 2019 17:06:18 GMT
Oh jolly good, was hoping you'd delve back into the wingy things! Banzai baby!! 
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Post by Paul B on Jun 4, 2019 17:16:29 GMT
Cheers Pete ole chap  , I might take this to Affligem if all turns out well 
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Post by Snipersmudge on Jun 4, 2019 17:21:22 GMT
Look forward to it mate 
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Post by SteveM on Jun 4, 2019 17:28:09 GMT
Yes indeedy I’m in B) Enjoy that paintwork buddy 
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Post by Paul B on Jun 4, 2019 17:59:26 GMT
Steve, cheers my friend  . That worn camo would defo be a challenge  , but this is what I want to try  .  The only difference would be, that I would green over natural metal
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Post by Ian H. on Jun 5, 2019 2:53:29 GMT
Ah yes!!! Paul is falling to the dark side as well. Great choice!!!!
Regards,
Ian
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Post by SteveM on Jun 5, 2019 6:11:44 GMT
Steve, cheers my friend  . That worn camo would defo be a challenge  , but this is what I want to try  .  The only difference would be, that I would green over natural metal Ooo..late war Japanese green mottle over bare metal! Great choice Paul B)
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Post by Paul B on Jul 3, 2019 15:47:19 GMT
Many may have noticed my lack of building of late  , but I have had a rough ride of life lately. Anyway after two good news reports I think I have gotten the build mojo back  . The first was that a good friend of mine appears to be on the mend, the second is that my application for dual nationality has been approved  . With that my brexit worries are finally over  . So I got back on the ole Zero today, and without wimping out of the tricky stuff  I made made the DIY glazing masks for the cockpit. Now this can be easy sometimes, but this one wasn't  . You can usually apply tape over the glazing, press this into place against the contours and then cut out what you don't need. Well the contours on this are very soft and hardly recognizable, so with a lot of colourful words, and holding the glazing with tape against the light  , I lifted and cut, lifted and cut ....... I think I have got it right, but only paint and removal of the masks will show if it is  . If it looks turd, I still have the open canopy as a back up  .   That is all for now, before any paint goes down I need to know what the real colour of the cockpit was  . There are so many people on different sites saying it should be: Metallic blue Light green Dark green Red primer ....... So not knowing what to do, I sent an email to Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and asked them for guidance  . That was yesterday, so with any luck something should come back soon  .
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Post by SteveM on Jul 3, 2019 15:58:33 GMT
Hiya Paul, I’m really pleased to hear some great news for a change, too much doom and gloom out there currently for my liking! As for the cockpit colour, I reckon it’d depend on how late in the war the airframe was constructed, early on would have the full approved primer and colour, at the end it would have had whatever was available. Maybe you should have asked somit easy like what shade was the real Panzer Yellow ?
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Post by Snipersmudge on Jul 3, 2019 17:43:43 GMT
Nice one Paul, well done on the dual nationality and nice bit of masking too. Looks suitably fiddly!
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Post by wouter on Jul 3, 2019 19:50:03 GMT
oh wow, good to see you having your mojo back chap. Can't go wrong with a Zero for me. Nice masking indeed.
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Post by Boots on Jul 3, 2019 20:00:32 GMT
And a ferkin` cracker to get ya back in the saddle mucker  ...........terrific news on the dual nationality as well 
As for the masking looks fine to me matey  ............i had the pre-cut canopy masks for the 1/72nd Stuka but although shaped i had similar probs trying to get the frame lines on the canopy in line with the tiny panel mask
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Post by Ian H. on Jul 3, 2019 23:56:34 GMT
Paul, that looks great and awesome job on the masking. My understanding about the cockpit color is that the Zeros were given a factory applied cockpit color which is similar to U.S. Interior Green FS34151 but with some tonal variations. Also, the shade varied by manufacturer so the Mitsubishi shade was a little different than the Nakajima shade. Eduard uses this shade for their colored Zero PE sets and Aeromaster made these respective shades in their Warbird line many moons ago. I don't think the Metallic Blue recommendation would be right as that was for wheel bays, etc. Once again, beautiful work and looking forward to this.
Regards,
Ian
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Post by Ian H. on Jul 3, 2019 23:58:59 GMT
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Post by Paul B on Jul 4, 2019 14:38:57 GMT
Many thanks chaps  . Steve, that is I figured too, but just looking the web seems to complicate things more than help  . As for the Dunkelgelb  , well..... no I am not going down that road  . Ian, I knew somehow that you would know more than most  . Those links are darned good fella, and will be a great help if nothing comes back from Mitsubishi. I was considering using SAC Bomber Tan No.1792DE from Model Master, with a tad Humbrol 31 Slate Grey or Humbrol 86 Light Olive to get the greyish tone. We'll see how things turn up from Mitsubishi first  . Haven't sprayed enamels for ages now, be nice to get that perfume in the air again  .
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Post by Ian H. on Jul 4, 2019 14:48:40 GMT
Enjoy the fumes, Paul!!!!!!!  Regards, Ian
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Post by alexb on Jul 5, 2019 3:21:04 GMT
This is a good kit, but the painting will prove "interesting"...to put it kindly. The main thing is the Zero had alot of variations, both units and changed during the war. For whatever reason, the Nakajima planes tended to be more uniform in painting. I think Tamiya simplified the paint callouts for the cockpit. My understanding, which is enough to be dangerous, is the airframe interior was painted the metallic blue. Which means the cockpit floor and walls would be metallic blue. The instrument panel, seat, and some fittings would be the green. Others would be black or dark gray.
Here's a pretty good pic that shows it. When I googled this, there's also pics of similar cockpits but the center instrument panel section is a black color.
I'm not sure if that'll be of any help. I am looking forward to see you build this one up.
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Post by The Kernel on Jul 5, 2019 6:17:52 GMT
Good to hear things are on the up mate!!!!! you certainly have been through the mill of late!!! I wont get into the colours of the Zero cos I know naff all about Japanese aircraft. Just thought I would chime in with a little encouragement for getting going on a wing-thing!! It made me decide to shelve the 'paper panzer'( too tricky) and break out the Hellcat.
bill
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Post by Paul B on Jul 5, 2019 7:58:42 GMT
Alex thanks for that, but that is exactly what I found and more confusing stuff  . Bill many thanks indeed ole chap, I certainly was in need of a little upper  . I have had an answer from Mitsubishi, a positive one too  . Can't show you yet as I am at work, but later I shall share my newly won info with you all  .
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