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Post by Paul B on Feb 12, 2020 16:25:04 GMT
Many thanks chaps . Here's part one of the Dunkelgelb saga . I have started with neat DG from Tamiya, this is of course XF60 thinned with a tad window cleaner. I have tried to let the over spray cover the edges, and concentrated on keeping the main spray in the middle of everything else. Isn't quite what I hoping for, but it's close. Next will be a fading of the base colour and then highlighting the high parts . I haven't yet decided what to do with main gun, I might leave it the dark grey heat resistant coat, we'll see.
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Post by Snipersmudge on Feb 12, 2020 16:54:47 GMT
Never could get the hang of pre shading but you've done a great job Paul. A nice bit of post shading with a lightened yellow will really give it more depth
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Post by wouter on Feb 12, 2020 16:58:14 GMT
Looking good alright ^^
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Post by Paul B on Feb 12, 2020 17:17:28 GMT
Pete, you could be right there ole chap ,I think I'll do that tomorrow . Wouts, you being the Panzer Junge here, must know if I'm going in the right direction . Cheers mucker.
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Post by Armorguy on Feb 12, 2020 18:02:26 GMT
I prefer this result Paul, this is imo how the real thing looked.
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Post by Boots on Feb 12, 2020 22:04:33 GMT
Very nice indeed mucker .....s`funny i was reading some stuff for the FAMO colours for N/A scheme and it mentioned that when spraying the second camo coat i.e a Brown on sand/sand over Grey etc the overspray was not allowed to be covered/touched up.......just left as is ......just a bit of waffle
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Post by Ian H. on Feb 12, 2020 22:35:27 GMT
Beautiful application of the yellow!
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Post by PorcoRosso on Feb 14, 2020 13:16:46 GMT
Nice paint job Paul.
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Post by jabbly on Feb 14, 2020 13:34:02 GMT
Never could get the hang of pre shading but you've done a great job Paul. A nice bit of post shading with a lightened yellow will really give it more depth I’ve never been a fan of pre-shading as it seems to give a somewhat artificial look. Personally I go for a darker base coat, the actual colour next and then finally a lighter coat.
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Post by dukemaddog on Feb 14, 2020 19:03:40 GMT
Never could get the hang of pre shading but you've done a great job Paul. A nice bit of post shading with a lightened yellow will really give it more depth I’ve never been a fan of pre-shading as it seems to give a somewhat artificial look. Personally I go for a darker base coat, the actual colour next and then finally a lighter coat. Yeah, that is how I modulate my color as well. Sometimes I only use two colors with a third lighter one done as a drybrush. I haven't the skills to preshade.
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Post by Paul B on Feb 14, 2020 19:57:33 GMT
Many thanks chaps, I have played with pre-shading before but never really got it to work as I wished. This time it isn't too bad, but I reckon I'll change the look later on anyway . Right, now down to the bad news. The sodding Tamiya Zim isn't sticking, or staying where it should . Despite cleaning the model before applying, it's still coming lose. So I have had to take some drastic measures. The glacis MG hood has been re-zimmed with putty, the pistol port on the turret also, and some other parts I managed to fix with cynao. I'll get these areas re-primed and blended back in tomorrow, pics will then follow.
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Post by Armorguy on Feb 14, 2020 20:03:37 GMT
This sounds like hell on earth Paul but I'm sure you'll stay in control.
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Post by Paul B on Feb 14, 2020 20:09:01 GMT
Guy that has to be the understatement of this year . It is a tad annoying to say the least .
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Post by wouter on Feb 14, 2020 20:47:29 GMT
ouch, that's a bummer. But what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. No doubt you'll manage. But not funny I can imagine. I'm with you Mr. B ^^
Cheers
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Post by Paul B on Feb 14, 2020 21:13:15 GMT
Wouts sometimes I think I am a jinx, no matter how careful I am something always goes wrong. To be honest it really gets me down. No matter which kit I build I seam to find problems, even the simplest of kits. Rant over. I'll stick with it, and find a way to solve this, even if the end result is only internet show-able .
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Post by Ian H. on Feb 15, 2020 1:29:55 GMT
Sorry you are having those issues, Paul. It is frustrating when something goes wrong that you have no control over and unfortunately these gremlins tend to leap out of the woodwork as I found out on my aborted FFG-47 build for this thread. You will get it worked out, Paul.
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Post by Armorguy on Feb 15, 2020 8:38:40 GMT
Guy that has to be the understatement of this year . It is a tad annoying to say the least . Ok not hell on earth but I'd go flippin' crazy.
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Post by The Kernel on Feb 15, 2020 10:19:24 GMT
Just want to add my views into the mix. I have painted and weathered models for many years and followed a few trends over the years, dry-brushing for one but the pre shading and modulation has always been lost on me. Do vehicles in 1/35 scale need shadows or subtle changes in hue to look real or is this something we have been fed by the Migs of this world to sell their ever-increasing load of mostly unnecessary weathering materials. I have watched a build on Youtube of a BT-7 in 1/35 and it ended up looking like something Disney would have been proud to produce. 'Chocolate box' springs to mind. the line between a model vehicle looking as authentic as possible; an aim we all aspire to and being worked on, and modulated and finessed until it is pleasing to the eye but has lost the real world look of a combat vehicle. I suppose if the builder was portraying a new build straight from the factory, it would obviously look clean and pristine. Once deployed the newness is gone quickly. My builds in 1/16th are all weathered without anything but washes, pigments and dry-brushing and I never felt they needed that 'extra'. In ending my piece I would say to Paul in my opinion forget the fancy modulation , preshading etc. Chipping and wear along with pigments and washes have served us well for years and we on this forum seem to do OK. It is right we try to emulate some of what we see on the web etc but I feel we are losing our way in trying to get effects that we are being told are correct but in my view are false. Please feel free to discuss. bill
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Post by wouter on Feb 15, 2020 11:38:37 GMT
Wouts sometimes I think I am a jinx, no matter how careful I am something always goes wrong. To be honest it really gets me down. No matter which kit I build I seam to find problems, even the simplest of kits. Rant over. I'll stick with it, and find a way to solve this, even if the end result is only internet show-able . I think that pretty much happens to everyone of us, even the big names have those setbacks, but they won't mention it Cheers
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Post by jabbly on Feb 15, 2020 12:24:27 GMT
Sounds like a bit of a bugger with the zim. I’ve only used it for the Elefant and although there were a few areas were I had to apply a bit vague f superglue generally I liked it.
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