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Post by Paul B on Oct 15, 2023 9:53:26 GMT
Here is my entry for the Group Build . I have chosen the Italeri Hurricane Mk I Trop for this. The version I shall be depicting, is one from the Royal Air Force that was stationed in Malta 1941 or 1942, haven't decided yet.
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Post by Paul B on Oct 15, 2023 10:33:23 GMT
A question for the wingy buffs out there. What colour were British WWII aircraft primed with?
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Post by tommygunn on Oct 15, 2023 10:35:13 GMT
Great choice sir.
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Post by Robbo on Oct 15, 2023 11:12:35 GMT
Very nice choice
Can you remind me what is this GB?
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Post by jabbly on Oct 15, 2023 12:18:04 GMT
Another one of those Aircraft that’s on my list of I should build one of those so I think I’ll pull up a chair!
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Post by Ian H. on Oct 15, 2023 13:07:23 GMT
Excellent choice, Paul. Another beautiful Hurricane in the works. Paul, I found this in a blog over on Britmodeler from Nick Millman. He writes for Osprey and is extremely knowledgeable regarding paint schemes and interior colors. Millman's information has saved me on at least two WW2 Japanese A/C subjects:
From Nick (referencing a Hurricane pic in the post):
Is the top colour photograph of a Sea Hurricane? The reason I ask is that there were three Universal Primers in use on British aircraft during the war and afterwards:- Dark Grey 33B/207 (replacing 210) later 874 Light Grey 33B/260 later 875 Yellow 33B/213 The first two Greys were intended for application to aluminium, aluminium alloys and wood, with Dark or Light to be chosen according to the final camouflage finish, e.g. Light for Medium Sea Grey. They could be applied by brush or spray but spraying was recommended for anything other than small parts. The Yellow, which contained chromates, was specially prepared for application to magnesium alloys but "it is sometimes used, however on sea-going aircraft". It was supposed to to be applied by brush only as spraying it was considered harmful. Fabric areas were primed with red dope 33B/124. Stores reference numbers are from 1942 to 1948. Nick
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Post by Paul B on Oct 15, 2023 13:33:22 GMT
Welcome chaps, very nice of you to let me bore you once again Very nice choice Can you remind me what is this GB? Ian, this GB is called Royal Titles Around the World. Anything with a connection to Royalty, it took me a while to think of anything as I had a block until the penny dropped . Royal can be found in many ways, RAF, RAAF RCAF, RN, RTR, Imperial, Koninklijke, Kaiserlicher....
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Post by Paul B on Oct 15, 2023 13:39:16 GMT
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Post by PorcoRosso on Oct 15, 2023 17:59:26 GMT
Great choice Paul. I've always had a soft spot for the Hurricane.
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Post by Armorguy on Oct 15, 2023 18:31:29 GMT
The 1941 camo was mirrored ? No matter your choice my neighbourbro it's going to look awesome.
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Post by Paul B on Oct 16, 2023 4:03:09 GMT
Joe, Guy, cheers for attention chaps . Guy, I don't know if Italeri have gotten that wrong or not. I'm going to have do a little research;) .
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Post by Paul B on Oct 19, 2023 15:00:43 GMT
Started cleaning up some parts and sticking together what can be stuck together at this stage . I must say though, this isn't one Italeri's better kits, lots of flash and few dodgy fits too. Anyway, here's Jeffs favorite part, bitz on sticks
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Post by Robbo on Oct 19, 2023 17:13:35 GMT
And we're off
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Post by PorcoRosso on Oct 19, 2023 18:54:21 GMT
Nice start Paul.
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Post by Armorguy on Oct 19, 2023 19:18:25 GMT
Looking very much forward to this Paul. I've always liked the plastic Italeri uses for their kits.
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Post by JEFF on Oct 19, 2023 19:59:33 GMT
Ah yes,bitz on a stick. Second only to Wheels on a stick in texture and taste.😁 I'm in on this one.😎
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Post by SteveM on Oct 19, 2023 20:10:38 GMT
Great choice Paul !
Interesting camo , this is a Trop version in use over Malta. These aircraft had a lot of nonstandard colours plus heavy weathering. Many Trops were converted from standard day fighters so had the camo converted too.
There were two versions of the standard day scheme, A and B. This was a pattern and the colours could be reversed so there's four possible combinations
If this was mine I'd use RAF Dark Earth (from the original Dark Earth and Dark Green day camo) and mid stone for the lighter brown. The underside would have possibility been sky overpainted with RAF sky blue, possibility a local mix! Many Hurricane Trops had all colours locally mixed so no real rules apply I reckon.
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Post by Ian H. on Oct 19, 2023 20:59:13 GMT
Great choice Paul ! Interesting camo , this is a Trop version in use over Malta. These aircraft had a lot of nonstandard colours plus heavy weathering. Many Trops were converted from standard day fighters so had the camo converted too. There were two versions of the standard day scheme, A and B. This was a pattern and the colours could be reversed so there's four possible combinations If this was mine I'd use RAF Dark Earth (from the original Dark Earth and Dark Green day camo) and mid stone for the lighter brown. The underside would have possibility been sky overpainted with RAF sky blue, possibility a local mix! Many Hurricane Trops had all colours locally mixed so no real rules apply I reckon. That's great info, Steve!
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Post by Paul B on Oct 21, 2023 9:24:23 GMT
Thank you all chaps,, specially Steve and Ian for the paint info . Yesterday I primed all the inside parts with Vallejo, Surface Primer Black. Unfortunately it showing it's age and hard to spray, but I got it done all the same. This morning I based coated the interior with Aluminium, this was also from Vallejo. I used 71.062 Alu with a few drops 71.121 Light Gull Gray. I added the gray to dull the aluminium down a tad . Next will some hairspray, then Tamiya XF71 Cockpit Green and chipping . Steve, Italeri call out Middle Stone and Dark Green for the camo, is that feasible? This colour mix really appeals to me .
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Post by Ian H. on Oct 21, 2023 12:19:05 GMT
Paul, is the S/N on that one Z4189? If so, Aeromaster also depicted that one on their "Malta Defenders" sheet, which I had. We used to call them "Error Master." That airframe number is generally believed to not have been deployed to Malta, but remained in the Western Desert. So either this plane was in Malta and the S/N is wrong or Z4189 simply was not in Malta. Regarding the Green/Middlestone vs. Dark Earth Middlestone, still trying to wade through that one, because this airframe seems to pop up on every kit/decal sheet out there but it is the most contentious scheme because no one is sure if this was one of the few that turned up in the Tropical Land Scheme with the Green. Here is a picture of Z4189: FOR ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES ONLY:
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