wouter
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Post by wouter on May 1, 2018 16:59:37 GMT
Well, I thought I might post my first thread here. I've been working on a ship on and off for about 2 years now. The end is still far from here, but hey, it's a fun ride First a bit of introduction ^^ Since I'm at the weathering stages with my StuG now I thought it was time to do something else. Last year I bought Tamiya's new tool 1/350 Yamato and a Pontosmodel full upgrade. Although I'm not a shipbuilder the big battleships do interest me. Bismarck and Tirpitz of course. but the biggest one was Japanese built Yamato. With it's 46 cm (18 inch) main guns it had the largest guns ever fitted on a ship. Blasts of the guns were so heavy they would kill you if you stould in the vicinity on deck. Here's a photo where Mushashi fires here main guns (photos only for discussion purposes)  Although Yamato didn't see much action (mainly because it was meant for intimidating purposes and also, it was symbol of status, carrying the ancient name for Japan, she couldn't be afforded to be lost. Yamato had a sistership called Mushashi. A third one was constructed as well, but was converted to the aircraft carrier Shinano when it was clear that battleships were obsolete technology. There is evidence though that Yamato was in action during the Battle of Samar in 1944 scoring a hit from 25 miles range on the US escort Carrier White Sands, rendering it useless untill the end of the war (word is said this would be the longest range hit ever) I'll be depicting Yamato during her final voyage: Operation Ten Ichi Go (Heaven Number One) was to help the forces at Okinawa when they were engaged by the US. Yamato and 9 other ships needed to carry just enough fuel to make it to Okinawa and engage US naval forces. In case that this didn't work out they were to beach themselves on Okinawa and being used as static gun platforms while the sailors became troops. Basically a suicide mission. However, the captains weren't intending to do this and mustered as many fuel as they could so they could make it back. On the 7th of April 1945, around noon, Yamato and her battlegroup where discovered by US planes, not too far from Japan. Aircraft carrier sent 3 waves of airplanes to attack. Initially, Yamato's main guns fired some AA rounds into the incoming swarm, but they didn't do much harm.  Multiple bomb hits, strafings and as many as 22 torpedos battered Yamato. 2 hours later Yamato listed and capsized. At that moment the 46cm shells rolled over and hit the backwalls with their fuses resulting in an enormous blast which could be seen 125 miles further. And that was the end of this battleship, taking 3.000 sailors with her to the bottom of the ocean. This is an actual photo of the explosion:  
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Post by Robbo on May 1, 2018 17:14:37 GMT
Oh yes this is good, didn't realise you had been working on it so long
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wouter
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Post by wouter on May 1, 2018 17:27:33 GMT
First, a shot of the kit and the goodies:  I must admit this is the largest subject I have ever built, being a 75cm long. This will be challenging to photograph no doubt. I started with the hull assembly. As always Tamiya do some clever engineering, and polycaps and screws are provided in the kit. Although I hope to put the model in an ocean setting (that's the plan anyway!) I assembled the lower hull (Tamiya provides you with an option to build her as a waterline model) and filled a gap. Rudders and metal propulsion shafts were added too.    So, with the assembly of the lower hull behind, I decided to paint it prior to further construction (less masking  ). I primed the thing with Mr. Surfacer 1500 Black and then gave it a couple of coats of Tamiya Hull Red. Now, unlike the other Japanese battleships of WWII, Yamato had a bright red lower hull. But I wanted to go for the hull red, why...dunno, probably because I had it in stock  . Remember that the plan is that Yamato will be sailing in some water when finished, so basically not much, or nothing at all will be visible of the lower hull  Before I could start attaching the upperhull and deck to the lower part I decided to remove the moulded on degaussing cable first. Degaussing-what? Yup, I had never heard of it either  . In order to prevent magnetic mines to be drawn easily towards the ships, the Japanese (and probably other navies too, but don't know too much about that) added a cable around the hull. This cable had electric current throught it to diminish the magnetic field of the hull. Gauss is a unit measuring the strenght of a magnetic field. The Germans predomantly used this unit.  And then I could make a start with the etch degaussing cable. Pontos actually give you two options: a 'flat' plain cable or one simulating multiple cables, so it has a bit of relief. I chose the latter. Quite some time later I could glue it around the bow. Took me some time to get all the bends right. (Quite annoyingly - and as a Tamiya user I should have known it - Tamiya paints dry flat. Now that's not in issue on it's own...but the drawback of it is that it attracts lots of dust particles  And one more shot with the complete hull mated (btw, I forgot to take photos of that stage, but the upper deck parts are attached with screws as well)  Even though this is a great kit, it isn't perfect, when installing the side upperhull parts there were some gaps which needed to be filled. I must say I'm not a huge fan of sanding and all, I find it always risky stuff. But it had to be done. I also installed the aft lower deck/airplane/lifeboat hangar. The deck itself is part of the Pontos set, as well as the very cool bollards.  One of the more cool features is the amount of detail of the kit. Even the turret bearings are moulded, nothing will be visible of that.    The real challenge here were the rails. These consist of two similar parts each which needed to be glued together. It posed me with a question: how to do that without messing up? The risk was there that I'd bend them during handling or even glue them on my work surface. It happened with one part, but luckily that bit won't be visible afterwards . Then I discovered Gator Grip glue, it looks like PVA glue and dries clear, it also has a bit of longer working time than ca glue and spill can be cleaned up with water. Quite the revelation!  At the rear was a gap that needed to be filled as well I finished adding the details on the bow part of the deck. I added the bollards, some parts were removed like the capstan base and the anchor chain brake mechanism and replaced by etch counterparts.  As you can see there are four cylindres around the capstan. Pontos gave you the option to add them or not. I thought it looked cool so I added them. However, in hindsight and after checking references, I'm not too sure if they were there on Yamato. Anywhoo, they are glued firmly in place so they will remain there  The achor chain brake wheels in place. Quite tiny, I had to remove the moulded on simplified part and drill a hole for the cylindre. After that I glued the wheel on top. Not too hard to my surprise.  Something which Tamiya didn't imply on the kit was the paravane fairlead. Quite a complicated part but I managed to assemble it without too much trouble. I added a 1 Eurocent piece to make a comparison.  The silver pieces you see on next photo are the Tamiya etch ones. Now that's the one thing I don't like in this kit: the Tamiya etch is very sturdy and hard. This can be an advantage, but it's very hard to remove them from the sprues and clean up.  On the hull sides I glued on the correct number of pipes. Not 100% sure but I guess these are the exit holes for like toilets and drains and such? I added some more of the degaussing cable as well, all glued with Gator Grip. Any excess glue cleans up easily.   And last but not least. I glued the propellers in place. They are some cool machined parts and save me the effort of painting (why do I glue them in place anyway ey LOL) 
Robbo : oh yes April 2016 was more or less the beginning of all of this
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Post by SteveM on May 1, 2018 17:30:05 GMT
I’m in! Pictures please 
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Post by SteveM on May 1, 2018 17:30:33 GMT
Oop, there they are! Crossed posts 
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wouter
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Post by wouter on May 1, 2018 17:32:04 GMT
I’m in! Pictures please  Ha, you were a couple of seconds too fast LOL btw, in between I wanted to share this. To show the great engineering of Yamato and sistership Musashi. Here's a picture how much of a beating Yamato took before she went to the bottom of the sea. The damage control system was very effective, but in the end it was too much...still, very impressive (bomb hits aren't included in this diagram):  Cheers
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Post by Boots on May 1, 2018 17:35:26 GMT
That looks superb fella...........soooooo glad yav put it up on here for us to follow mate......and there is no rush 
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Post by SteveM on May 1, 2018 17:37:31 GMT
Impressive stuff, the Yamato is one of the Wars mythical ships and you’re doing her proud matey 
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Post by wouter on May 1, 2018 17:43:02 GMT
One more update for today  I managed to more or less finish one of the main gun turrets (some small bits need to be added here and there, and I need to scrape off some glue spills in some areas). I'm still waiting for replament barrels so I dry fitted just one (the only one correctly drilled out ). I also added the Pontos AA gun platforms on the roof, as well as the railings and other tiny stuff. Today I assembled one of the open Type 96 triple AA guns. It consists out of 17 parts and took me nearly two hours to assemble just one. Yamato had more than thirty on board  . To show the shear size of the thing I layed a toothpick and a 1/35 Tiger I roadwheel (what else  ) next to it for comparison.    I completed the degaussing cable assembly. Most of it was glued in place again with Gators's Grip Glue. Except for the parts at the aft section of the hull. Lots of corners and all and it was a bit harder to get it stuck there. So superglue to the resque. I found something new recently, called the 'Glue Looper'. It uses cappilary action to add very thing ca glue in narrow nooks 'n crannies. Basically I loaded the Glue Looper with ca glue and held it to the edge of the degaussing cable.  Other than that, as you can see in the photo above, I glued the gun platforms for the shielded AA guns at the edge of the hull in place. On both sides a swinging boom was assembled and glued in place.  Each side of the hull has some ventilation gaps. According to the model of Yamato museum at Kure, Japan, the port side has only 5 (starboard has 6). The Tamiya Yamato has 6 on each side, so I had to fill one on the port side. After that I glued the ventilators in place (consist out of 2 parts each)  The aft deck was finished as well (added some smaller bits and a ladder). As you can see I also made a start on the aft flight deck.  And that's how the hull stands at the moment:  I assembled the two Kure Type No.2 Model 5 catapults. Each one consists out of a staggering 70 parts Assembly was timeconsuming and a little frustrating from time to time (though not too often) but the result is ok:     Although not an easy assembly, the jib crane definitely is much faster assembled than I expected.  The base for the crane consists out of many parts already, and a wonderfully turned piece of brass And completely ready!   I couldn't resist dryfitting the catapults and crane to the stern, as well as the platforms for the stern AA guns (which are still a WIP)  That's all for today folks! Tsudzuku,
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wouter
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Post by wouter on May 1, 2018 17:44:54 GMT
Boots and Steve, thanks a lot guys, glad you enjoy the work  Cheers
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Post by Boots on May 1, 2018 18:00:17 GMT
That is stunning etch work buddy........  , seems a shame to hide it all under paint  I like that glue looper thingy
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Post by Snipersmudge on May 1, 2018 18:41:53 GMT
Oh my god! That is some extremely fine and clean work mate. Especially on those tiny etched parts, I certainly would not have the patience or skill to build them. 
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Post by Robbo on May 1, 2018 19:18:22 GMT
This build is special
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Post by wouter on May 2, 2018 14:26:45 GMT
Hi Boots, thanks mate. Well, that Glue Looper sure is very handy! Hiya Smudge  Glad you like the bling, thanks mate! Trust me, I don't have the patience all the time neither LOL Robbo, way to kind mate, thanks ^^ I have been working on the flight deck. I scraped away the detail on the upperside and glued the etch surface in place. The underside got the plastic removal treatment as well. I glued the etch beams in place (consisting out of 24 parts angel 2) and the rear AA gun supports protrude the edge of the flight deck. The Tamiya parts are just open on the underside but that shouldn't be like that. So I made a bottom part using plastic card and added some triangular supports as well.    The aft deck received a basecoat of Tamiya Kure Grey and that should be applied to the underside of the flight deck as well. After that I can glue the deck in place (no photos of the paint just yet though) I assembled and installed the supports for the flight deck. For a strange reason, Tamiya's new tool Yamato is flawed in this area to say the least. I'll show you an example from someone building the New tool as well (only for discussion purposes):  As you can see the number of support beams underneath the flight deck is 9 large beams and 5 smaller ones. As far as I know all the aftermarket companies follow this number of beams. However, the large model of Yamato at the Yamato museum at Kure, Japan show that the real one had a different set up
 4 smaller beams and 7 larger ones. So I decided to follow this model because it's highly likely that it's the correct set up. Quite strange that Tamiya made that error. Since the Pontos model set followed the Tamiya set up I had to file down some supports in order to fit at the correct areas. Took me about one hour per side.  I added some smaller details to the flight deck, and the aft deck received a coat of primer and preshade, followed by Tamiya Kure Grey before I installed the flight deck. Cheers
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Post by Boots on May 2, 2018 15:21:23 GMT
Outta this world mate........etch work just blows me away 
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Post by Snipersmudge on May 2, 2018 18:06:59 GMT
amazing !! 
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Post by SteveM on May 3, 2018 12:01:19 GMT
Unbelievably detailed and tiny etchwork fella, too much for me to even attempt!
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Post by Boots on May 3, 2018 14:03:09 GMT
I bet you`ll look forward to a nice Tam shake `n` bake after this 
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Post by armorguy on May 3, 2018 18:53:15 GMT
In-feckin-credible build so far Wouter, the AA guns are masterpieces on its own !
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wouter
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Post by wouter on May 5, 2018 6:46:26 GMT
Very kind of you gents, thanks a lot! ^^ Boots: Tamiya shake 'n bake ey? Well actually I got one by MilMod's editor Martyn Chorlton at the end of last year. A 1/48 Tiger I for the magazines Kursk special. Sadly, I couldn't keep it OOB at all  I managed to complete the flight. Took me small steps at a time (taking a lot of time mind you smile o). The rails at the flight deck were quite the effort and quite hard to get in place. Now, Pontos tell you to glue two parts against each other, which form a rail. However, hard as it was already, I decided to install single rails. Won't be quite visible from afar anyway  . Anyway, ginormeous amounts of thin ca glue were used, and the primer stage will tell if I messed up or not  . Smaller parts like the AA gun directors where glued in place as well.  Basically, except for the fact I need to fill some gaps here and there - and Mr. Metal Primer needs to be applied to the etch - the hull is ready to receive a basecoat of Mr. Surfacer, pre-shade and basecolor. I reckon that will take a lot of hours. During different sessions I worked on Yamato's main gun turrets. These turrets where quite the deal, weighing 3.000 tons each, which is more than the weight of an American Destroyer at that time. Most of the weight came from the very thick armor of course, which was supposed to be able to withstand long range hits from similar enemy guns as Yamato's (although the US Battleships had guns of a maximum of 16 inch. I recently found some interesting photos of Yamato's gun turrets being constructed, I'll share them with you (for ref. purposes only).  Nice look on the interior of the Nr.1 turret and the bearings of the Nr.2 turret  view on the upperside of the floorplate, you can clearly see the inserts for the main guns and breaches.  Bottom plate of the fighting compartment.  This gives a nice indication of the thickness of the side armor of those turret. This is a plate for a turret for Shinano, the third Yamato Class battleship which was never finished, in stead it was converted into a carrier. The US did a test with a 16 inch gun firing in perfect conditions (close range, perfect angle, etc.) I'm depicting the two forward main turrets firing their 'San Shiki' or Beehive shells at the incoming airplanes. As you can see some guns already fired and dropped in the down position for reloading.   You don't want to be at the business end of this one ey    starting to look like a real ship now ^^ I also started construction of the Nr.1 secondary gun turret. Originally Yamato was equipped with four of these, one up front, one aft, and one at port and starboard each. The latter two where later replace with more AA guns.    Well, that's all skippers!
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